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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 2:34:21 GMT -5
Presidential Succession Act (2019)Section 1. Enactment of the Presidential Succession Act (2019)
(1) This Act will be enacted immediately upon being signed by the President of Pacifica.
Section 2. Basis for the Presidential Succession Act (2019)
(1) Recognizing a need for legislation that explicitly details the succession of the office of the President of Pacifica in the event of his/her incapacitation or inability to effectively carry out the duties of President of Pacifica.
Section 3. Provisions of the Presidential Succession Act (2019)
(1) Should the President be removed from office due to the loss of his/her citizenship, cease to exist, resignation from the World Assembly, or expulsion from the World Assembly, the Chairperson of the Guardian Council shall assume the office of Acting President of Pacifica until a new president is elected.
(2) Should the Chairperson of the Guardian Council not hold the World Assembly Delegacy, the individual who holds the WA Delegacy will temporarily retain the the WA Delegacy, and will be subject to the instructions of the Acting President until a new President is elected. Afterwards, the new President will become the new WA Delegate.
(3) Upon the election of a new president, the Chairperson of the Guardian Council who temporarily held the office of Acting President of Pacifica shall resume his duties as Chairperson of the Guardian Council.
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Post by melaka on Jan 29, 2019 2:41:56 GMT -5
Motion to vote
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Post by Toerana on Jan 29, 2019 2:49:38 GMT -5
Very well written proposal. Sets out clear guidelines in the case of a President being kicked out.
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Post by Constie on Jan 29, 2019 7:20:49 GMT -5
I don’t think it would be good for the Prime Minister to become President. It would interrupt the functions of government even more than the departure of the President already did. The President should be able to choose their own line of succession, or better yet, a challenge is considered opened when a president leaves office.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 8:02:48 GMT -5
I don’t think it would be good for the Prime Minister to become President. It would interrupt the functions of government even more than the departure of the President already did. The President should be able to choose their own line of succession, or better yet, a challenge is considered opened when a president leaves office. As stated in the proposal, the Prime Minister’s accession to the Presidency of Pacifica will be a temporary measure to ensure continuity of government. All essential functions of the Prime Minister’s are carried out by his/her Minister’s, and will be continued to be carried out throughout the Prime Minister’s temporary accession to the Presidency of Pacifica. The Prime Minister’s temporary accession to the presidency will ensure continuity of defense operations and foreign affairs, which are arguably more important than the Prime Minister’s generally domestic mandate. Furthermore, allowing the President to simply choose a successor will impede upon the democratic ideals that this region has been founded upon. It is important that we collectively uphold those ideals and ensure legislative provisions for a fair and democratic system of governance in the event of presidential incapacitation. |
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Post by Constie on Jan 29, 2019 8:50:50 GMT -5
Well, if the president leaving office automatically triggers a challenge period, then its okay for the President’s Designee to take office on an acting basis.
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Post by lukatonia on Jan 29, 2019 8:56:52 GMT -5
Shouldn't the line of succession follow through the Secretaries? Such as the FA secretary being first in the line and then following down until a special election can be healed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 8:56:55 GMT -5
Well, if the president leaving office automatically triggers a challenge period, then its okay for the President’s Designee to take office on an acting basis. The disagree, as a President’s designee isn’t democratically elected by the people. Whereas the Prime Minister is. |
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Post by Constie on Jan 29, 2019 9:20:24 GMT -5
Well, if the president leaving office automatically triggers a challenge period, then its okay for the President’s Designee to take office on an acting basis. The disagree, as a President’s designee isn’t democratically elected by the people. Whereas the Prime Minister is. The President is elected with the people also consenting to his/her pick of Secretaries. It would be better to not interrupt the functions of the Prime Ministry and Council of Ministers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 9:24:53 GMT -5
The disagree, as a President’s designee isn’t democratically elected by the people. Whereas the Prime Minister is. The President is elected with the people also consenting to his/her pick of Secretaries. It would be better to not interrupt the functions of the Prime Ministry and Council of Ministers. I don’t understand how the functions of the Prime Mininistry and Council of Ministers will be interrupted upon the Prime Minister’s temporary accession to the Presidency of Pacifica. The Council of Ministers will continue their work while the Prime Minister has temporarily assume the office of President. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 9:27:35 GMT -5
Perhaps a clause can be included that explicitly states that when the Prime Minister temporarily assumes the office of President of Pacifica, he/she will retain the powers of the office of Prime Minister it Pacifica.
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Post by Constie on Jan 29, 2019 9:34:48 GMT -5
Perhaps a clause can be included that explicitly states that when the Prime Minister temporarily assumes the office of President of Pacifica, he/she will retain the powers of the office of Prime Minister it Pacifica. That would be even more concerning, having all power vested in one person |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 9:37:20 GMT -5
Perhaps a clause can be included that explicitly states that when the Prime Minister temporarily assumes the office of President of Pacifica, he/she will retain the powers of the office of Prime Minister it Pacifica. That would be even more concerning, having all power vested in one person Temporarily, during a very delicate transitory period. |
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Post by Cormac on Jan 29, 2019 10:04:18 GMT -5
As a moderation note, please stop doing this. It's already been brought to your attention that the Regional Congress has a minimum discussion period of three days. In addition to that, under most circumstances only the author of legislation can make a motion to vote on their legislation to ensure it doesn't go to vote before they're done revising. Moreover, even if these procedures weren't the law, it's not good practice to immediately vote on laws before we've had any time to discuss or debate them. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but there is absolutely no valid reason to move for a vote right after a proposal is posted. Thanks! |
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Post by Constie on Jan 29, 2019 11:01:26 GMT -5
That would be even more concerning, having all power vested in one person Temporarily, during a very delicate transitory period. Well, if we’re a functioning republic, the peaceful transition of power shouldn’t be delicate. It would be much wiser to have a designated secretary or a WA member of the Guardian Council take over in the interim. |
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Post by Cormac on Jan 29, 2019 12:48:07 GMT -5
Perhaps a compromise solution lies in passing succession to the Speaker? The Speaker is both democratically elected, and has quite limited power, so it wouldn't be a case of too much power centralization in one person's hands. I do think passing succession to a Guardian is also reasonable. They may not be democratically elected, but they are democratically confirmed. That said, let's keep in mind succession would be extremely temporary. The Acting President would ideally only be in office for a period that hopefully wouldn't exceed two weeks. So I do think almost any of these proposals would probably be fine in the grand scheme of things. It's worth noting I don't think we should include Sections 3(2) and 3(3). Automatic triggering of an election if the presidency is vacated is already mandated by Section 2(2) of the Election Administration Act, so the provision in Section 3(2) of this legislation would just needlessly delay the election until the Regional Congress passes a special election resolution. Section 1 of the Election Administration Act already details how election administrators are to be selected, so Section 3(3) of this legislation would actually contradict the Election Administration Act. |
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Post by Toerana on Jan 29, 2019 13:13:07 GMT -5
A Guardian would make the most sense, Guardians are meant to have high endorsements, so it wouldn't cause an issue to easily switch delegate. Despite not being democratically elected, as Cormac said, they are democratically approved. This means that they at least have some support from the congress, and don't have much power outside of a crisis, such as the founder collapsing. Guardians also have no overlapping power with other aspects of government, so it would leave all other branches intact until an election, of sorts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 13:21:07 GMT -5
A Guardian would make the most sense, Guardians are meant to have high endorsements, so it wouldn't cause an issue to easily switch delegate. Despite not being democratically elected, as Cormac said, they are democratically approved. This means that they at least have some support from the congress, and don't have much power outside of a crisis, such as the founder collapsing. Guardians also have no overlapping power with other aspects of government, so it would leave all other branches intact until an election, of sorts. I’d agree to allowing a Guardian to assume the office of the President on a temporary basis instead of the Prime Minister. How will we go about selecting which Guardian? |
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Post by Toerana on Jan 29, 2019 13:23:56 GMT -5
My head says we choose the Chairmen of the Guardian Council, Constie, should it not be too hard to get them to the top, in terms of Endorsements.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 13:24:58 GMT -5
My head says we choose the Chairmen of the Guardian Council, Constie, should it not be too hard to get them to the top, in terms of Endorsements. Fair enough, I’ll make the changes. |
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